Comments on: Lewis Cass Embraces Emancipation

By: Edwin Thompson

Edwin Thompson — Fri, 16 Sep 2011 21:37:27 +0000

We are in a delicate interpetation of Lincoln’s thoughts. I challanged your statement that he appeased loyal slaveholders. My response was that he did it because he believed in the law. He believed in the republican form of government – a government by the people, for the people.

Lincoln did not plan on freeing the slaves (nor did I make this statement) – but he knew this was an option. The British already set the stage for that solution. Emancipation of slaves was a common solution to the slavery problem. Lincoln knew this – and he used it when the time came. This is what made him great.

By: Donald R. Shaffer

Donald R. Shaffer — Fri, 16 Sep 2011 17:55:02 +0000

Hi Edwin. I agree with you that Lincoln personally didn’t like slavery and didn’t think it would survive forever. But it is clear that Lincoln’s primary concern in the Civil War was saving the Union. And he was going to do whatever it took to do it. As he wrote Horace Greeley in August 1862 (after he had made the decision to issue the Preliminary Emancipation Proclamation but before he made the decision public):

“I would save the Union. I would save it the shortest way under the Constitution. The sooner the national authority can be restored; the nearer the Union will be “the Union as it was.” If there be those who would not save the Union, unless they could at the same time save slavery, I do not agree with them. If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause. I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors; and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views.”

So to say that Lincoln planned to free the slaves all along is reading back into history for Lincoln an intention that wasn’t there. In September 1861, he defended the property rights of loyal slaveholders because he believed doing so would help save the Union. Over the next year, he gradually shifted in the direction of emancipation because he came to realize freeing the slaves was necessary to save the Union. But Lincoln’s paramount concern always was saving the Union. If doing so had meant he was required to leave all or some slaves in chains, I have no doubt Lincoln would have done so.

By: Edwin Thompson

Edwin Thompson — Fri, 16 Sep 2011 17:30:18 +0000

Don – I would respectfully disagree. It’s incorrect to say that Lincoln bent over backwards to appease loyal slaveholders. He did not suddenly embraced emancipation in 1862. His personal history tells the story. He grew up poor, never went to school, taught himself the law, practiced law throughout Illinois, and loved the republic – a government managed by laws. It is clear that from the beginning he was intent to uphold the law, even if the law was morally repugnant to his personal views on slavery. His greatness was in changing the law. John Browns greatness was in confronting evil laws violently.

So did he appease the slaveholders. No – he was a politician and a lawyer, and he upheld the law when he had to and changed them when he could. He was managing the northern Black Republicans and the southern Fire-eaters to maintain the republic. As we know, his joining the Republican party, his words in the Douglas debates, and his Cooper Union speech make his personal views clear. But the law was not written to support his personal views. He was a lawyer that knew the republic could only stand with laws. Emancipation was always in the equation. It was happening all over the world.

By: Donald R. Shaffer

Donald R. Shaffer — Thu, 15 Sep 2011 18:49:40 +0000

Hi Margaret. Great observations. It never ceases to amaze me that as nasty as Lincoln could get with rebels and rebel-sympathizers, how much he bent over backwards early in the war to appease loyal slaveholders. – Don

By: Margaret Blough

Margaret Blough — Thu, 15 Sep 2011 18:24:07 +0000

Also, Lincoln felt that it would be disastrous to let individual generals unilaterally determine national policy matters. It totally undermined the concept of civilian control of the military in general and the President’s role as commander-in-chief, specifically. The US really didn’t have a clear concept or clear set of rules regarding martial law. It’s ironic, given some groups’ obsession with the idea of Lincoln as Tyrant, but Lincoln was adamant about trying to limit the war’s impact on individual rights. Some was unavoidable (although destroying railroad lines & cutting telegraph lines doesn’t qualify as peaceful protest.) Through 1862, Lincoln did everything in his power to persuade loyal slave states to end slavery on their own with US government financial assistance since state legislative action was the one way of ending slavery that was unquestionably legal even before the war). He warned those states’ congressmen that, if the offer of federal assistance was taken, events were rapidly moving beyond anyone’s control. The states rejected the offer at that time. Three years later, the Thirteenth Amendment ended slavery immediately and without compensation everywhere in the US, not just the rebel states.